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	<title>Comments on: 5 Lessons About Online Businesses: insights from customer service hell at Faysal Bank Limited</title>
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		<title>By: iphone pas cher</title>
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		<dc:creator>iphone pas cher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2011 21:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Iphone pas cher...&lt;/strong&gt;

excellent post.Never knew this, appreciate it for letting me know....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Iphone pas cher&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>excellent post.Never knew this, appreciate it for letting me know&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Mudassar Ijaz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mudassar Ijaz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 12:47:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, for online business, you must have a good idea / base and than it should be presented in a way that once a visitor visits the site, it should make him feel as this place is specially  built for him. The feel and comfort of the look, contents, and procedure must be simple and comprehensive.

If you have something interesting there and is presented will, you will get those visitors to hit back again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for online business, you must have a good idea / base and than it should be presented in a way that once a visitor visits the site, it should make him feel as this place is specially  built for him. The feel and comfort of the look, contents, and procedure must be simple and comprehensive.</p>
<p>If you have something interesting there and is presented will, you will get those visitors to hit back again.</p>
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		<title>By: Meraj Khattak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Meraj Khattak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My personal experience with Meezan Bank&#039;s different branches in Karachi, is different. Though, overall they are not bad.

I also see a huge difference of the customer services between large banks (HBL, UBL, MCB not a good service at more branches) and comparatively smaller banks (MB, FB) etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My personal experience with Meezan Bank&#8217;s different branches in Karachi, is different. Though, overall they are not bad.</p>
<p>I also see a huge difference of the customer services between large banks (HBL, UBL, MCB not a good service at more branches) and comparatively smaller banks (MB, FB) etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adnan Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:23:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PS: If it turns out that levels of service vary on branch to branch basis, then it points to further organization wide problems. For instance, while the lady was on the phone, the colleague on the next desk could only ask me if I was being served. May be she outranked him or they were on equal standing. 

Where was the floor manager or some one who was looking after the KPI regarding maximum amount of time it should take a new customer to open an account?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: If it turns out that levels of service vary on branch to branch basis, then it points to further organization wide problems. For instance, while the lady was on the phone, the colleague on the next desk could only ask me if I was being served. May be she outranked him or they were on equal standing. </p>
<p>Where was the floor manager or some one who was looking after the KPI regarding maximum amount of time it should take a new customer to open an account?</p>
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		<title>By: Adnan Ali</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adnan Ali</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TEE BEE: I realized I was having a particularly bad experience. Since all I do is think about web/mobile based businesses, I started thinking how these things effect our online visitors. I gave them the benefit of doubt of having an off day, but our online visitors will never do that. The more I sat there, the more I found relevance it made to me.

mansoor: The point of my post was not to beat up on Faysal bank. I have heard good things about them too. As I said above, I realize that every person or organization can go through a disaster day where most things go wrong. 

The point was to transfer my negative experience into positive learning. 

Startup: Why did not I think of that :P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TEE BEE: I realized I was having a particularly bad experience. Since all I do is think about web/mobile based businesses, I started thinking how these things effect our online visitors. I gave them the benefit of doubt of having an off day, but our online visitors will never do that. The more I sat there, the more I found relevance it made to me.</p>
<p>mansoor: The point of my post was not to beat up on Faysal bank. I have heard good things about them too. As I said above, I realize that every person or organization can go through a disaster day where most things go wrong. </p>
<p>The point was to transfer my negative experience into positive learning. </p>
<p>Startup: Why did not I think of that <img src='http://greenwhite.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mansoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>mansoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 07:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good one! one of my best read&#039;s today i think. 

However, I have also been a client with Faysal bank, for the last three years infact, and have had my account in two seperate branches. I believe i was fortunate enough to have good customer service reps at both places, because i didn&#039;t face any issue whatsoever. 

At the first branch, my employee account was opened by the office staff, i didn&#039;t even have to go to the branch. just signed an authority letter and got my account number immediately and the checkbook in a couple of days. 

The second time i opened, i was told the refferal requirement wasn&#039;t necessary anymore, i only needed a letter on my company letterhead about my employment status. It took my three days to get that from my head office, and in the meanwhile, my account was opened on the basis of my business card (with the condition that i would submit the letter asap). No hassle there. 

On the day of the opening, i was told the system was down and not issuing account numbers.. so i just gave them the money, had my deposit slip signed and left. Two hours later, they called me on my cell, gave me the new account number and confirmed the deposit slip had been processed. Even gave the transaction number of it for my records. 

Lastly (and the one reason i think i&#039;ll never shift!), i wrote two checks from that account. When the checks came to the branch, they saw i didn&#039;t have enough money in my account.. instead of rejecting the checks, they *called* me, saying they had stopped processing them, and if i came in that day and resolved the issue, the checks wouldn&#039;t bounce. I went there a little while later, found out that the problem was with their system, resolved it, was apologized to profusely, and left. 

I dont believe any other branch would give that kind of customer service to their regular customers (note: i am a regular customer, not a gold, platinum or high roller one). 

p.s.
my new branch is F-8 Markaz, Islamabad. Old one was Sh-e-Faisal, Karachi.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good one! one of my best read&#8217;s today i think. </p>
<p>However, I have also been a client with Faysal bank, for the last three years infact, and have had my account in two seperate branches. I believe i was fortunate enough to have good customer service reps at both places, because i didn&#8217;t face any issue whatsoever. </p>
<p>At the first branch, my employee account was opened by the office staff, i didn&#8217;t even have to go to the branch. just signed an authority letter and got my account number immediately and the checkbook in a couple of days. </p>
<p>The second time i opened, i was told the refferal requirement wasn&#8217;t necessary anymore, i only needed a letter on my company letterhead about my employment status. It took my three days to get that from my head office, and in the meanwhile, my account was opened on the basis of my business card (with the condition that i would submit the letter asap). No hassle there. </p>
<p>On the day of the opening, i was told the system was down and not issuing account numbers.. so i just gave them the money, had my deposit slip signed and left. Two hours later, they called me on my cell, gave me the new account number and confirmed the deposit slip had been processed. Even gave the transaction number of it for my records. </p>
<p>Lastly (and the one reason i think i&#8217;ll never shift!), i wrote two checks from that account. When the checks came to the branch, they saw i didn&#8217;t have enough money in my account.. instead of rejecting the checks, they *called* me, saying they had stopped processing them, and if i came in that day and resolved the issue, the checks wouldn&#8217;t bounce. I went there a little while later, found out that the problem was with their system, resolved it, was apologized to profusely, and left. </p>
<p>I dont believe any other branch would give that kind of customer service to their regular customers (note: i am a regular customer, not a gold, platinum or high roller one). </p>
<p>p.s.<br />
my new branch is F-8 Markaz, Islamabad. Old one was Sh-e-Faisal, Karachi.</p>
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		<title>By: Startup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Startup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 05:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a note - the employer should get the account open herself. You shouldn&#039;t have to go to the bank and get khwarofied like this :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a note &#8211; the employer should get the account open herself. You shouldn&#8217;t have to go to the bank and get khwarofied like this <img src='http://greenwhite.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: TEE BEE</title>
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		<dc:creator>TEE BEE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 04:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post...but it is confusing as to you are telling your experience at the Bank or you are suggesting Founders of online business on what to do. I dont see the relevance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post&#8230;but it is confusing as to you are telling your experience at the Bank or you are suggesting Founders of online business on what to do. I dont see the relevance.</p>
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		<title>By: Osama A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Osama A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 00:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent post!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post!</p>
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