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	<title>Comments on: Lessons Learnt from Freelancing as a Coder</title>
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		<title>By: Raza</title>
		<link>http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/03/02/lessons-learnt-from-freelancing-as-a-coder/comment-page-1/#comment-8760</link>
		<dc:creator>Raza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 04:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mansoor,

Good post! And being a freelancer myself, I know exactly what you&#039;re talking about. Working with buyers is not always easy, as you described, but it is the job of the coder to make sure of all these things before embarking on a project - especially a big one.

As for me, I guess I am a bit different in the sense that coding is the way to go for me. For me, there&#039;s nothing better than to keep challenging yourself with new problems and finding their solutions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mansoor,</p>
<p>Good post! And being a freelancer myself, I know exactly what you&#8217;re talking about. Working with buyers is not always easy, as you described, but it is the job of the coder to make sure of all these things before embarking on a project &#8211; especially a big one.</p>
<p>As for me, I guess I am a bit different in the sense that coding is the way to go for me. For me, there&#8217;s nothing better than to keep challenging yourself with new problems and finding their solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: batty</title>
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		<dc:creator>batty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 05:29:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow..well written!!!
I could certainly take a leaf or two out of your book of experience in the world of freelancing!!!

Thanks for the insight into a journey that :looks: so simple..but really is SO complicated!! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow..well written!!!<br />
I could certainly take a leaf or two out of your book of experience in the world of freelancing!!!</p>
<p>Thanks for the insight into a journey that :looks: so simple..but really is SO complicated!! <img src='http://greenwhite.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Muhammad Omer Nasir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muhammad Omer Nasir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:14:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Asslam O Alikum!

First of all, I like to appreciate your efforts of GreenWhite.org site. I start reading GreenWhite.org blogs from last two weeks. The site has good content and information for entrepreneurs. Again, I appreciate you.

I have one question, Can you please advice me tips  &amp; tricks for time &amp; cost estimation of a project...

--&#124; AimsLifeâ„¢ &#124;--</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Asslam O Alikum!</p>
<p>First of all, I like to appreciate your efforts of GreenWhite.org site. I start reading GreenWhite.org blogs from last two weeks. The site has good content and information for entrepreneurs. Again, I appreciate you.</p>
<p>I have one question, Can you please advice me tips  &amp; tricks for time &amp; cost estimation of a project&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8211;| AimsLifeâ„¢ |&#8211;</p>
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		<title>By: mansoor</title>
		<link>http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/03/02/lessons-learnt-from-freelancing-as-a-coder/comment-page-1/#comment-8257</link>
		<dc:creator>mansoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 09:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>majid: that is definitely the case, and while in a  company setting, a project manager or the customer facing person comes under heat, in freelancing, you have to manage that as well as take time out to code. so its an all around skillset that you develop. 

tahir: take the step and get into freelancing man! its fun and at the end of the day, the money is ALL yours :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>majid: that is definitely the case, and while in a  company setting, a project manager or the customer facing person comes under heat, in freelancing, you have to manage that as well as take time out to code. so its an all around skillset that you develop. </p>
<p>tahir: take the step and get into freelancing man! its fun and at the end of the day, the money is ALL yours <img src='http://greenwhite.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tahir Akram</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tahir Akram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 07:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mansoor;

An impressive post, i hope I will handle to manage and utilize heat in myself which I am feeling after reading it.

And I think a successful freelancer can become a successful entrepreneur. Because while doing projects for small term of different nature one can think a strong story for him.  I think for if the work in office didn&#039;t give you excitement then one should go for free lancing to check himself how smart he is. And how batter he can sell his code.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mansoor;</p>
<p>An impressive post, i hope I will handle to manage and utilize heat in myself which I am feeling after reading it.</p>
<p>And I think a successful freelancer can become a successful entrepreneur. Because while doing projects for small term of different nature one can think a strong story for him.  I think for if the work in office didn&#8217;t give you excitement then one should go for free lancing to check himself how smart he is. And how batter he can sell his code.</p>
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		<title>By: Majid Farid</title>
		<link>http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/03/02/lessons-learnt-from-freelancing-as-a-coder/comment-page-1/#comment-8238</link>
		<dc:creator>Majid Farid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 18:50:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mansoor,

Thank you for sharing the experience. This is very common in projects either you do freelance work or you are a big vendor providing solution to the customer; they will always keep on changing the scope. A project change request process should be a part of the initial contract and should be adhere to strict (a project manager responsibility!!). Even if a feature that you can do for free, a change request with 0$ should be raised as it maybe have impact on the project time, scope and cost.

In reality its very hard to negotiate a good contract as the people on the other side know this as well that they will miss out on things and hence they want to squeeze you as much as possible. Worst is when you have to do things like Integration testing or SIT on external system which are not ready and then the project drags forever.

My two cents .

/Majid</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mansoor,</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing the experience. This is very common in projects either you do freelance work or you are a big vendor providing solution to the customer; they will always keep on changing the scope. A project change request process should be a part of the initial contract and should be adhere to strict (a project manager responsibility!!). Even if a feature that you can do for free, a change request with 0$ should be raised as it maybe have impact on the project time, scope and cost.</p>
<p>In reality its very hard to negotiate a good contract as the people on the other side know this as well that they will miss out on things and hence they want to squeeze you as much as possible. Worst is when you have to do things like Integration testing or SIT on external system which are not ready and then the project drags forever.</p>
<p>My two cents .</p>
<p>/Majid</p>
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		<title>By: mansoor</title>
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		<dc:creator>mansoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Mar 2008 14:14:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks ali raza</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks ali raza</p>
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		<title>By: Ali Raza Shaikh</title>
		<link>http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/03/02/lessons-learnt-from-freelancing-as-a-coder/comment-page-1/#comment-8218</link>
		<dc:creator>Ali Raza Shaikh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Mar 2008 21:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I m loving it Mansoor Bhai!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I m loving it Mansoor Bhai!</p>
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