Comments on: The evening of Liveblogging with 70 entrepreneurs at the Vahzay office http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/ Coffee Sessions for the Industry! Sat, 12 May 2012 08:39:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: ByteSense launching game provisioning product Ziyro with Wateen : Green & White http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-148657 ByteSense launching game provisioning product Ziyro with Wateen : Green & White Wed, 21 Oct 2009 22:19:28 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-148657 [...] the latest content. Now, on with the regular content...ByteSense was one of the startups present at Startup Insiders 2 - Lahore. The GamerPK blog has news that they are now getting ready to launch a Multiplayer Gaming Provision [...] [...] the latest content. Now, on with the regular content…ByteSense was one of the startups present at Startup Insiders 2 – Lahore. The GamerPK blog has news that they are now getting ready to launch a Multiplayer Gaming Provision [...]

]]> By: Farah Malik http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7604 Farah Malik Sun, 10 Feb 2008 08:48:53 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7604 A commendable initiative, one of a kind. A balanced blend of people from various walks of life, presenting their views and sharing their experiences which led them to be a source of inspiration for many. It was a pleasant gathering where everyone participated candidly, where taboos were broken and myths were proven wrong. The most inspiring thing in my opinion were these entrepreneurs taking pride in what they have achieved over the years being Pakistanis and Muslims – fulfilling their dreams, achieving their goals and keeping themselves motivated despite of all the hurdles and frustration around – instilling faith in everyone that they can make a difference with a positive frame of mind and keeping focus on what matters to them the most. I would like to thank PASHA, GREEN & WHITE and VAHZAY for arranging such a gathering and making it a success. This should definitely become a monthly. Osama, please feel free to contact if you need any help for arranging similar sessions. Best Regards A commendable initiative, one of a kind. A balanced blend of people from various walks of life, presenting their views and sharing their experiences which led them to be a source of inspiration for many.

It was a pleasant gathering where everyone participated candidly, where taboos were broken and myths were proven wrong. The most inspiring thing in my opinion were these entrepreneurs taking pride in what they have achieved over the years being Pakistanis and Muslims – fulfilling their dreams, achieving their goals and keeping themselves motivated despite of all the hurdles and frustration around – instilling faith in everyone that they can make a difference with a positive frame of mind and keeping focus on what matters to them the most.

I would like to thank PASHA, GREEN & WHITE and VAHZAY for arranging such a gathering and making it a success. This should definitely become a monthly.

Osama, please feel free to contact if you need any help for arranging similar sessions.

Best Regards

]]> By: Osama A. http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7496 Osama A. Thu, 07 Feb 2008 20:37:24 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7496 Interesting - why would they want to talk entrepreneurship with school / college guys? Not that startups cant happen at that age (remember the 13-yr old CEO?) but why have a 5-day event on it? Interesting – why would they want to talk entrepreneurship with school / college guys?

Not that startups cant happen at that age (remember the 13-yr old CEO?) but why have a 5-day event on it?

]]> By: Muneeb http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7487 Muneeb Thu, 07 Feb 2008 16:28:03 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7487 Too bad I missed it because of some other commitments. On a side note, the LUMS entrepenuer crap was only for younger students from schools/colleges and had nothing to do with the undergrads/grads or for that matter people in the industry. Too bad I missed it because of some other commitments.

On a side note, the LUMS entrepenuer crap was only for younger students from schools/colleges and had nothing to do with the undergrads/grads or for that matter people in the industry.

]]> By: Osama A. http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7441 Osama A. Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:38:43 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7441 Thanks Nash... good feedback! We'll be doing startup pitches in upcoming ones - we want to focus on the art of pitching and other such things first, and try to pick and guide some startups closely to make sure that their 5-min pitch can be effective. I like your idea about introducing success stories - so far everyone we've gotten had a very unique story but we didnt introduce them, so will certainly keep it in mind next time. Thanks Nash… good feedback!

We’ll be doing startup pitches in upcoming ones – we want to focus on the art of pitching and other such things first, and try to pick and guide some startups closely to make sure that their 5-min pitch can be effective.

I like your idea about introducing success stories – so far everyone we’ve gotten had a very unique story but we didnt introduce them, so will certainly keep it in mind next time.

]]> By: Sarah http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7440 Sarah Wed, 06 Feb 2008 10:57:54 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7440 Osama i wanted to submit my company as a start up..but i cant find the right email address. Sent on two email adresses given on ur site and they failed...Can i please haf one... Thanks Osama i wanted to submit my company as a start up..but i cant find the right email address. Sent on two email adresses given on ur site and they failed…Can i please haf one…

Thanks

]]> By: Nasrullah http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7435 Nasrullah Wed, 06 Feb 2008 08:13:02 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7435 AoA, Startup insiders at Lahore was pretty good and I think it must go on. Like everything else, there's always room for improvement, here are my thoughts: - Share the videos online! For those who can't be at Lahore - I know that we are supposed to encourage students and younger folks for coming in the industry; but some of the questions were horrifically dumb. The very first question asked by the lady was something along the lines of "IT is not for consumers", in this age of email, cellphones and googling; that question didn't deserve the 5 mins given by 6 well respected CEOs. In the future, it would be a good idea if the moderator preempts and say "Yeah, thats a real cute question, we'll get back to that if we have time at the end, along with the meaning of life." -The CEOs invited on the panel must have a proven success record. The young generation wants Role Models, people they can look up to. Its very important that the person giving advice has the record to back it up. I think it would a be a good idea if the moderator could introduce each panelist and their success story rather than the panelist explaining themself (not everyone is comfortable being boastful). Startups that are successful should be on the panel. -It would be a good idea if you can involve the participants. I had a friend of mine who had a startup idea, he made a presentation and bought his laptop. He was expecting that different people would pitch their startup ideas. A good idea might be to invite any such pitches before the event (via a blog announcement) and then have them send their presentation for prescreening. Could be fun. -Finally, on a philosophical note, what is a startup? I agree with your definition; and to add to it, any company which does not have a life greater than 3 years is considered a startup (banks tell me that when we talk about financing). But its more than time, it also has to do with financial stability, profitability as well. I think ByteSense, Amaana, Rozee, CDF are all startups. Its subjective but I thought I'd through it out there :) On the whole, great work done Osama, its a pity we couldn't meet Jahan Ara. We're looking forward to the next session. AoA,

Startup insiders at Lahore was pretty good and I think it must go on. Like everything else, there’s always room for improvement, here are my thoughts:

- Share the videos online! For those who can’t be at Lahore

- I know that we are supposed to encourage students and younger folks for coming in the industry; but some of the questions were horrifically dumb. The very first question asked by the lady was something along the lines of “IT is not for consumers”, in this age of email, cellphones and googling; that question didn’t deserve the 5 mins given by 6 well respected CEOs. In the future, it would be a good idea if the moderator preempts and say “Yeah, thats a real cute question, we’ll get back to that if we have time at the end, along with the meaning of life.”

-The CEOs invited on the panel must have a proven success record. The young generation wants Role Models, people they can look up to. Its very important that the person giving advice has the record to back it up. I think it would a be a good idea if the moderator could introduce each panelist and their success story rather than the panelist explaining themself (not everyone is comfortable being boastful). Startups that are successful should be on the panel.

-It would be a good idea if you can involve the participants. I had a friend of mine who had a startup idea, he made a presentation and bought his laptop. He was expecting that different people would pitch their startup ideas. A good idea might be to invite any such pitches before the event (via a blog announcement) and then have them send their presentation for prescreening. Could be fun.

-Finally, on a philosophical note, what is a startup? I agree with your definition; and to add to it, any company which does not have a life greater than 3 years is considered a startup (banks tell me that when we talk about financing). But its more than time, it also has to do with financial stability, profitability as well. I think ByteSense, Amaana, Rozee, CDF are all startups. Its subjective but I thought I’d through it out there :)

On the whole, great work done Osama, its a pity we couldn’t meet Jahan Ara. We’re looking forward to the next session.

]]> By: Osama A. http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7407 Osama A. Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:49:01 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7407 I define the difference between a startup and an established company as follows: You're a startup if in your operations you are still lacking one or more major parts, from access to liquidity, access to customers, access to legal support, access to product sourcing, access to distribution and brand equity. An established company has all of these areas covered, but a startup usually knows that it can not get one or more of them. It may have access to customers but not access to capital. It may have capital but no brand. etc. The art of the startup is the process of building capacity in each of those areas. I define the difference between a startup and an established company as follows:

You’re a startup if in your operations you are still lacking one or more major parts, from access to liquidity, access to customers, access to legal support, access to product sourcing, access to distribution and brand equity.

An established company has all of these areas covered, but a startup usually knows that it can not get one or more of them. It may have access to customers but not access to capital. It may have capital but no brand. etc.

The art of the startup is the process of building capacity in each of those areas.

]]> By: Startup Insiders http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7405 Startup Insiders Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:45:51 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7405 If your heart is young, do you ever grow old? I think being a startup is a mindset. As long as that mindset remains, you can never grow old... If your heart is young, do you ever grow old? I think being a startup is a mindset. As long as that mindset remains, you can never grow old…

]]> By: startup http://greenwhite.org/blog/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/comment-page-1/#comment-7401 startup Tue, 05 Feb 2008 18:33:36 +0000 http://greenwhite.org/2008/02/05/the-evening-of-liveblogging-with-70-entrepreneurs-at-the-vahzay-office/#comment-7401 Osama, Great event! By the way, how long does a startup stay startup? Or what makes a startup a proper company. Just curious to know your opinion. ;) Osama,

Great event! By the way, how long does a startup stay startup? Or what makes a startup a proper company. Just curious to know your opinion. ;)

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