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Here’s something pretty useful.
One member of our community has recently spent some time opening this wateen router, going over technical specs and demystifying WiMax protocol specs to understand whats wrong with Wateen’s service.
Apparently he’s figured out why the connection keeps dropping and hacked the router to bypass the issue – he was claiming that he went from dialup speeds one day to 60-100kB/s the next.
Trouble is, he’s a shy person, and didnt want to write a post for the G&W readers who so desperately want a solution.
Humbug, I say!
Lets all put some pressure on this gentlemen to come forth with a solution – Do you want to get out of Wateen nightmares, fix your router, and get into internet bliss again? If so, sound off in the comments to tell this mystery man just HOW MUCH you need that and how grateful you’ll be if he gives us this secret sauce.
Lets get creative here!
Oh and Mr.Mystery – you’re welcome to post the solution anonymously in the comments.
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March 29th, 2008 at 12:22 am
Oh and tell your friends and family and pet dog to come here and write comments and put some more pressure on Mr.Mystery.
We need to generate some sort of a movement out of this – we need hundreds of comments here.
While Mr.Mystery then explains the solution, I’ll try to get a hold of someone from Wateen’s management to take a look at this movement.
Viva-la-high-speed!
March 29th, 2008 at 12:29 am
Someone make a slogal logo for this campaign too so we can put it up on our blogs
March 29th, 2008 at 2:26 am
come on mystry guy hit it
waiting for solution
March 29th, 2008 at 9:57 am
Hey man, we are waiting for solution…
March 29th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
Ok, Osama has dragged me into writing something. These are just my findings of research I did for my connection. I hope this helps someone.
Log into your Wimax router. Default IP Address is 192.168.15.1. Default user is router and default password is router. Go to status section and there go to Network Statistics Section. Note down two values RSSI and CINR. RSSI will be a negative value. It has to be below -85 dB and CINR has to be below 8 dB. If this isn’t the case move you router to some other place and test again.
Point to note is Wimax is MIMO technology. This means CINR (Carrier to interference plus Noise Ratio) can be due to a co channel. This implies that just rotating the router can also help. My router is facing North-East.
Do Let me know if this helps
March 29th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Hmm, well that wasnt a lot of pressure at all! :p
Interesting solution, but still soudns like a bit of work.
Can all of the people in the community come together to share if this works for them, and if so in which direction? Maybe we can start learnign from each other’s experiments to find the best place quicker.
March 31st, 2008 at 6:46 pm
we use wateen cable not wimax!
April 4th, 2008 at 2:49 am
my wimax router is missing an antenna – i needed a doorstop. at least it proved to be useful for something. the future is now , the future is wateen my ass.
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But i’ll give this a go on the weekend.
April 4th, 2008 at 2:52 am
So far my browsing has been pretty good – no need for reloads – however its also 3 am. that said, I had a quick look at my stats and i have the following values:
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rssi = -84dBm
CINR = 11 db
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I wonder what it means, perhaps I’ve given co ordinates of my location….bah.
April 4th, 2008 at 2:53 am
just to add to the above – i hadn’t moved my device over the last few hours and i couldn’t browse the internet until about 20 minutes ago – i’m not so sure how those values help….anyway.
April 4th, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Yeah right. So this is the infamous hack? checking the SNR and moving your router to get a better signal? You guys got me excited for no reason.
May 10th, 2008 at 1:16 pm
hv a very bad experence on usin wateen.bt any way gud luck.
May 17th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
WRONG!!
The critical part of the information provided by Mystery Man is WRONG!
He said, “Note down two values RSSI and CINR. RSSI will be a negative value. It has to be below -85 dB and CINR has to be below 8 dB.”
RSSI of -85 dBm an OK value, but virtually and according to Wateen infrastructure is should be -80 dBm.
-60 dBm to -70 dBm is quite healthy value, and -40 dBm is something hard to achieve with Wateen.
(I am sure most of the people know, but let me mention that closer to zero value of RSSI, the better it is)
Now come to CINR, CINR is Carrier to Interference + Noise Ratio, it is same as SNR in traditional DSL system.
Mystery Man said “CINR has to be below 8 dB.”, which is wrong.
For Wateen, CNIR has to be ABOVE 15 dB. For CNIR, higher is better. If you have 20-25 dB, you should be happy at it. And for lower than 10 dB or 8dB (unlike what Mystery Man said) performance will be poor.
I hope this will pretty much help people trying to get their device in healthy signal environment.
This is coming from an Electrical Engineer, specialized in Electronics and Communication.
And yes, you can rely on this information
May 18th, 2008 at 12:26 am
well to hell with all miser users who havn’t know the new technology.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:33 pm
Thanks for all the help mystery man and waqas arshad.Really solved out a lot of problems i was having before.Again thanks for sharing this.As for you waqas ahmed well if u cant appreciate some for there work just shut the fuck up!
July 3rd, 2008 at 11:02 pm
I agree with Engr. Waqas Arshad, however iam not sure abt the recomended values. But do wish to add that changing antenna positions also helps, try different configurations for example, raise one side up vertically the other lowered vertically, or one pointing up ther other pointing forward, or one pointing forward and the pointing backwards, try other combinations also. Dont be surprised by the results. This is how telecom is.
-from another telecom engr.
July 3rd, 2008 at 11:33 pm
But I assure you of one thing ” I AM QUITTING WATEEN” , wish you happy wateening!
October 27th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
Please , Tell me one thing.
I have wateen indoor device that worked pretty better for weeks. Then one day it went on searching signals and did not capture any signals for 3 days.
I called the Helpline. They sent a person. And that person attached My device with his LAPTOP. And again the Wateen was working fine.
I want to know Why it happens?
What the wateen Person does
And Can we put Indooe device on our Roof and get a long LAN cable to PC for better signals instead of Using an outdoor device???
October 29th, 2008 at 6:08 pm
Well Shakeel!
you can put your indoor device in the outdoors, but rest assured it will not survive for long.
November 18th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
not use ful service fowulop qawfg and vjeryped
December 17th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
M been usin wateen for a long long time n i always m geting issue n alot o the time slow speed
so any body who cn help plz do
i have Wimax 512kb connection
January 18th, 2009 at 8:19 am
i need help fixing my roouters
February 19th, 2009 at 10:05 am
I too need help setting up the router for my Wateen connection. Internet just doesnt work with the settings mentioned in the manual =S What should i do?
April 18th, 2009 at 8:21 pm
Dear … there is nothing wrong with the wateen service also there is nothing to do in the wateen device… the wrong is with the users(sorry to say) … i m not wateen boy but as i m using wateen service and i m geting good speed its depend on the person how can he manage… if your computer is p1 and ram is 64 the the speed will go the bottom…
Example: install new windows (only windows) and now attach the wateen device with the computer off the updates of the windows … and now try to open the Internet Explorer… just you click and you can see the IE is opend now brows the sites you can see the sites are opening so quick… now install in computer MS Office, msn Messenger, yahoo messenger, an anti vires, also some of other programs,so now what you need to do remove the wateen device from your pc and restart your computer and now try to open Internet Explorer … you can see clearly with out internet explorer taking 5 to 7 sec to open… so its all the computer problems there is nothing wrong with wateen and other …
April 18th, 2009 at 8:26 pm
*******************with out net connection *********************
April 18th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
Rabia Mirza …. if you need to use wifi router with wateen device then you have to do one simple step…just off the DHCP of your wifi router then you can use the wateen service using ur wifi router… because DHCP is available in the Wateen device so there is no need for another DHCP.
April 18th, 2009 at 8:32 pm
tracy … you need to use the above mathod…as i told rabia mirza
May 4th, 2009 at 10:51 pm
Hi guys, I have Wateen Jupiter.The values are:
WiMAX RSSI: -52 dBm
WiMAX CINR: 21 dB
WiMAX Downlink Throughput: 0.466 kbps
WiMAX Uplink Throughput: 0.824 kbps
It really pathatic service. Any help please
May 14th, 2009 at 5:43 pm
does wateen offer any student package?
if not so i think its not competing wid its other competitors n it will go down soon.
May 18th, 2009 at 7:47 am
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May 18th, 2009 at 7:55 am
i like wateen bhai, wateen rocks
May 21st, 2009 at 3:12 pm
can you supply internet settings for my psp (playstation portable)
June 4th, 2009 at 10:33 am
Hey Guyz,
i m getting rssi -46 dbm and cinr is 26db
is it good?
June 5th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
I am using wateen for like one and a half year now and the service has been good since the summer of last year. I have hardly faced an issue. my oval shaped device shows two signal bars and everything works perfect. according to the coordinates of my place i am out of coverage. but from what I have seen is that all the indoor-outdoor stuff is crap. As long as you are getting two signal bars it works perfect. no problem with the browsing or the streaming it’s hard to see why people complain or get fussy……i am so glad that my wireless service works well and i am out of the dsl/ptcl/link dot net mess. my friends have been swifting to wateen becuase of me and they are all satisfied …… out of a total of 30 there is only one guy who got issues and those issues are only till i get to his place. so it’s really the user issue most of the time. but yeah the wateen complaint handlers are shit people……some body wanted to know about what they do with their laptops when the device keeps on searching—–they simply update the software of the device—it’s either upgraded or down graded according to the situation.
Peace:)
June 6th, 2009 at 11:59 am
I am using a 3.5 ghz cpe and nothing else.how do i make my connecton better.I am new to wireless internet :p
Is the cpe also called the router?? =D
how do i log into the router ??
June 6th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
yeah…call it router or wireless modem or cpe. name don’t matter. do u have the new tall standing thin device?
July 28th, 2009 at 2:28 am
Hi ..i just needed the ip address to the main jupiter modem..
like the default for many modems is 192.168.0.1
August 9th, 2009 at 4:59 am
Gud info.
But i hav quit wateen. There was a lot of signal problems
August 9th, 2009 at 9:58 pm
i bought wateen for online games now i get 350 ping on cod4 servers with slow shit game i always die:D Slow shit download n upload n there is always a prob of signals.after a few days i came to know that watching videos on youtube uses my 5GB download limit n also playing online games What the f**k is that plus i get dail up speeds i hate wateen holy shit service.
August 9th, 2009 at 10:02 pm
The Corporate Manager Wateen Broadband.
I appreciate for your new tariff package but I would like to inform you that you have forgotten your old clients of Bank Alfalah employees to whom you have given special package for 10 GB and 512 kb for Rs 650/- per month. Kindly grant some special package for them. Thanks.
August 18th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
hey!
can sum 1 help me?when i put 192.168.15.1. on my browser,the login page that opens only asks for da password n not da loggin or username.and router is not da password cuz it says wrong password when i type it in??
Help me??
August 19th, 2009 at 12:41 am
you did not need to put the 192.168.15.1 in the browser … so you need to just put in the browser 10.16.6.16 or you can type only with out www or http just (internet.wateen.net) the login page should opend and then you need to put your login id which provided to you by wateen.
August 21st, 2009 at 9:46 pm
@lorddawg, maybe you have the motorola router, its password is ‘motorola’ by default i dont know if wateen changes the default password before supplying it to customers.
September 9th, 2009 at 1:22 am
if u want any kind of infomation call me on this number 03214101387
M Qasim Rasheed
September 9th, 2009 at 1:23 am
if u want any kind of infomation about wateen telecom call me on this number 03214101387
Regards,
M Qasim Rasheed
Wateen telecom
September 13th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I got the new CPEo450 outdoor unit installed 4-5 days back. The Wateen ppl had some pretty hard time locating signals at my place and finally settled for only 1-2 fluctuating signals they got. Later I tried browsing but it was not much good for a 1MB connection so took up matters in my own hands and did a survey for signals on my roof with the device. I got the same results as wateen staff but surprisingly when I tilted the device at 90 degree i.e. its orientation from vertical to horizontal, it gave full 5 signals. so now i have mounted it in horizontal plane well covered under a big shade to avoid water entering in the drain holes of the device and getting pretty perfect service. Turbo download speed, RSSI -56dBm, CNIR 27dB at the moment.:)
October 17th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
@SAMSUNG WTF?? I came here for some wateen hack!! and all mr mystery has to tell is to tilt and rotate device! wtf bloody genius.
this mr mystery is actually Mr. Mistery (urdu wala misteree):D
October 20th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
wateen sucks bhen chod kabhi chal k hi nahin deta wateen ki ma ka bhosra randi ka bacha wateen dalla gando
October 28th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
dant congrats u have provided us all with fix of wateen!
November 8th, 2009 at 9:40 pm
itz gud bt signalz r nt proper n wateen website z complicated
November 8th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
signalz r nt proper
November 12th, 2009 at 3:13 am
hey guys
im usin eyebeam softphon.it works prety good with ptcl broadband.but here it doesn’t registered with wateen.can somebody help me what to do? thanks in advance
November 13th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
bhai agar ap wateen ka router ka page open karna chahtay hain to is tarha karo. vista 64 bit instal karo or 4 ya 5 dafa device ka switch nikal kar lagao to woh searching par chali jay gi or reset ho jay gi motorola ka page foran open karlo or paswored chage karlo
November 23rd, 2009 at 3:26 am
Wateen routers are specially designed by motorola for constant speed. And wateen is also make you fool by speedtest plugin on their webpage.
December 7th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
I am not a Wateen user and i never got good reviews about the service while I was considering WiMax, Now I have Qubee WiMax service and its been giving me problems.
Anyone know what the CINR values should be for Qubee to make the damn thing work the way it should?
December 24th, 2009 at 5:48 pm
my stats are :-
WiMAX RSSI: -83 dBm
WiMAX CINR: 8 dB
its my outdoor device that i have put outdoors under a shed and covered with a plastic bag………. i get 150+ dl speed , 1mb unlimited.
wateen = biggest sons of bitches this world will ever know …… motherfu……… dekha phir mun khulwa dia mera haramion nay
they gave me connection 2 months ago nd still no outdoor device ,,,,, i have visisted their franchises a million tyms and called 111-365-111 more than a million times …. result : ZERO. in ki tou………..
December 24th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
sorry , its my indoor device that i have put outdoors……….
December 24th, 2009 at 8:09 pm
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December 28th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
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January 2nd, 2010 at 10:13 pm
i m using wateen now i want some free usernames nd passwords so can u able to gve me
January 3rd, 2010 at 1:46 pm
apply for services…
January 4th, 2010 at 1:00 pm
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now they dont me give me the outdoor device and then they call me and ask that y am i not using net ,,,,, f*kin morons ……. jahannum mein jao be**airto :S
January 6th, 2010 at 12:37 am
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January 10th, 2010 at 10:08 pm
yeah,
just wanted to say that Im using PTCL EVO and although i have minor problems now and then…..PTCL does kick wateen and witribe butt big time
January 15th, 2010 at 1:03 am
Hello everyone
I want to know what is the speed of wateen outdoor? How many kbps downloading speed?
Thanks
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:09 am
Thank your very much ….Mystery Man….
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