Osama A.

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Here’s something pretty useful.

One member of our community has recently spent some time opening this wateen router, going over technical specs and demystifying WiMax protocol specs to understand whats wrong with Wateen’s service.

Apparently he’s figured out why the connection keeps dropping and hacked the router to bypass the issue - he was claiming that he went from dialup speeds one day to 60-100kB/s the next.

Trouble is, he’s a shy person, and didnt want to write a post for the G&W readers who so desperately want a solution.

Humbug, I say!

Lets all put some pressure on this gentlemen to come forth with a solution - Do you want to get out of Wateen nightmares, fix your router, and get into internet bliss again? If so, sound off in the comments to tell this mystery man just HOW MUCH you need that and how grateful you’ll be if he gives us this secret sauce.

Lets get creative here!

Oh and Mr.Mystery - you’re welcome to post the solution anonymously in the comments.

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17 additional thoughts for this post.

  1. Osama A. Said:

    Oh and tell your friends and family and pet dog to come here and write comments and put some more pressure on Mr.Mystery.

    We need to generate some sort of a movement out of this - we need hundreds of comments here.

    While Mr.Mystery then explains the solution, I’ll try to get a hold of someone from Wateen’s management to take a look at this movement.

    Viva-la-high-speed!

  2. Osama A. Said:

    Someone make a slogal logo for this campaign too so we can put it up on our blogs

  3. sumair Said:

    come on mystry guy hit it
    waiting for solution

  4. Muhammad Qasim Pasta Said:

    Hey man, we are waiting for solution…

  5. Mystery Man Said:

    Ok, Osama has dragged me into writing something. These are just my findings of research I did for my connection. I hope this helps someone.

    Log into your Wimax router. Default IP Address is 192.168.15.1. Default user is router and default password is router. Go to status section and there go to Network Statistics Section. Note down two values RSSI and CINR. RSSI will be a negative value. It has to be below -85 dB and CINR has to be below 8 dB. If this isn’t the case move you router to some other place and test again.

    Point to note is Wimax is MIMO technology. This means CINR (Carrier to interference plus Noise Ratio) can be due to a co channel. This implies that just rotating the router can also help. My router is facing North-East.

    Do Let me know if this helps :)

  6. Osama A. Said:

    Hmm, well that wasnt a lot of pressure at all! :p

    Interesting solution, but still soudns like a bit of work.

    Can all of the people in the community come together to share if this works for them, and if so in which direction? Maybe we can start learnign from each other’s experiments to find the best place quicker.

  7. Wateen User Said:

    we use wateen cable not wimax!

  8. nm Said:

    my wimax router is missing an antenna - i needed a doorstop. at least it proved to be useful for something. the future is now , the future is wateen my ass.
    .
    But i’ll give this a go on the weekend. :)

  9. nm Said:

    So far my browsing has been pretty good - no need for reloads - however its also 3 am. that said, I had a quick look at my stats and i have the following values:
    .
    rssi = -84dBm
    CINR = 11 db
    .
    I wonder what it means, perhaps I’ve given co ordinates of my location….bah.

  10. nm Said:

    just to add to the above - i hadn’t moved my device over the last few hours and i couldn’t browse the internet until about 20 minutes ago - i’m not so sure how those values help….anyway.

  11. sumer glau Said:

    Yeah right. So this is the infamous hack? checking the SNR and moving your router to get a better signal? You guys got me excited for no reason.

  12. sana ali Said:

    hv a very bad experence on usin wateen.bt any way gud luck.

  13. Engr. Waqas Arshad Said:

    WRONG!!

    The critical part of the information provided by Mystery Man is WRONG!

    He said, “Note down two values RSSI and CINR. RSSI will be a negative value. It has to be below -85 dB and CINR has to be below 8 dB.”

    RSSI of -85 dBm an OK value, but virtually and according to Wateen infrastructure is should be -80 dBm.

    -60 dBm to -70 dBm is quite healthy value, and -40 dBm is something hard to achieve with Wateen.

    (I am sure most of the people know, but let me mention that closer to zero value of RSSI, the better it is)

    Now come to CINR, CINR is Carrier to Interference + Noise Ratio, it is same as SNR in traditional DSL system.

    Mystery Man said “CINR has to be below 8 dB.”, which is wrong.

    For Wateen, CNIR has to be ABOVE 15 dB. For CNIR, higher is better. If you have 20-25 dB, you should be happy at it. And for lower than 10 dB or 8dB (unlike what Mystery Man said) performance will be poor.

    I hope this will pretty much help people trying to get their device in healthy signal environment.

    This is coming from an Electrical Engineer, specialized in Electronics and Communication.

    And yes, you can rely on this information :-)

  14. Waqas Ahmed Said:

    well to hell with all miser users who havn’t know the new technology.

  15. Faraz FA Said:

    Thanks for all the help mystery man and waqas arshad.Really solved out a lot of problems i was having before.Again thanks for sharing this.As for you waqas ahmed well if u cant appreciate some for there work just shut the fuck up!

  16. toqs Said:

    I agree with Engr. Waqas Arshad, however iam not sure abt the recomended values. But do wish to add that changing antenna positions also helps, try different configurations for example, raise one side up vertically the other lowered vertically, or one pointing up ther other pointing forward, or one pointing forward and the pointing backwards, try other combinations also. Dont be surprised by the results. This is how telecom is.

    -from another telecom engr.

  17. toqs Said:

    But I assure you of one thing ” I AM QUITTING WATEEN” , wish you happy wateening!

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